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#526 Re : Discussion libre » Que de souvenirs ... » 2013-07-22 12:22:20
pingouinpoilu a écrit :Si la seule nécessité d'orientation et le choix de clefs font pour toi la richesse d'un jeu, tes exigences en matière de jeu vidéo sont bien basses.
Et toi tu exiges quoi ? Un jeu vidéo n'a pas besoin d'être complexe pour ne pas être bourrin.
Doom est un vieux jeu vidéo, à cette époque on ne se permettait pas autant de complexité qu'aujourd'hui. On se basait sur la difficulté Hardcore et la longueur d'un niveau pour dire qu'un jeu demandait de la réflexion.
Optimiser son trajet sur un niveau, retenir la position d'ennemis stratégiques qui te font crever à chaque fois dans différents niveaux, résoudre un puzzle ... tout ça c'est de la réflexion et de la tactique.
La complexité pour moi c'est une qualité et le bourrinisme un défaut, sans lien l'un avec l'autre. L'addition de l'un avec l'autre c'est pas une bonne chose : la complexité seule ça aurait été mieux.
Doom est un vieux jeu, et donc il ne peut pas être doté des mêmes qualité que les jeux d'aujourd'hui : je n'exige rien d'un vieux jeu, il est vieux et c'est normal qu'il ne soit pas forcément aussi bon qu'un nouveau.
Personnellement niveau réflexion et tactique je préfère un bon (et vieux, 2002 c'était il y a 11 ans, déjà) Morrowind (sur lequel je geeke ces temps-ci) à un jeu où la seule "réflexion" nait d'évènements totalement imprévisibles. Doom c'est une histoire de se faire charcuter assez de fois pour comprendre comment ne pas se faire charcuter. Pour moi c'est pas de la tactique, c'est juste l'acquisition d'expérience de jeu en répétant un mouvement et en voyant où ça coince. Finalement ça revient à du passage en force, et donc même la partie "réflexion" de ce jeu reste bourrine.
Après je ne dis pas qu'à l'époque où ce jeu est sorti il était mauvais ; il devait même être excellent, et vaut, et vaudra peut être mieux que la plupart des FPS actuels pour un moment. Mais ne couvrons pas de louanges un jeu qui ne les mérite pas.
#527 Re : Discussion libre » Que de souvenirs ... » 2013-07-22 12:05:31
J'ai jamais dit que c'était pas difficile, mais ça n'en reste pas moins bourrin.
Si la seule nécessité d'orientation et le choix de clefs font pour toi la richesse d'un jeu, tes exigences en matière de jeu vidéo sont bien basses.
#528 Re : Discussion libre » Que de souvenirs ... » 2013-07-22 11:54:10
L'histoire du jeu bourrin c'est pas vraiment une histoire.
#529 Re : Discussion libre » Que de souvenirs ... » 2013-07-22 11:40:51
Ou alors c'est de la merde.
#530 Re : Photos, Vidéos » G LE PLUS DE DISKE DUR BANDE DE KK » 2013-07-22 01:19:16
PAINT
PROOV KE CÉ VRAY E KEU TWA T A PA PEINTAI TO N IMAG !!
#531 Re : Photos, Vidéos » G LE PLUS DE DISKE DUR BANDE DE KK » 2013-07-21 22:51:58
DTC SPECE DE KAKA
#532 Re : La confrérie d'Arctica » Screenshots de la faction » 2013-07-21 09:58:56
C'est pas faux tout ça, mais je suis pas d'accord en ce qui concerne l'extermination des juifs, c'est un peu extrême quand même.
#535 Re : Bans - Réclamations » Darth___Nihilus = Koristraza » 2013-07-18 23:14:00
Surtout que l'essentiel de l'univers de Star Wars est connu que par des gros débiles assez fanatiques pour s'acheter toutes les merdes dérivées.
D'ailleurs Alamambus j'aimerais bien te voir discuter Elder Scrolls, je suis sûr que ce serait marrant.
#536 Re : Discussion libre » Section +18 » 2013-07-18 21:21:08
Ben non c'est la section pour ceux qui ont le permis et qui peuvent voter !
#537 Re : La confrérie d'Arctica » Screenshots de la faction » 2013-07-18 20:20:55
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#538 Re : Discussion libre » dat bordel » 2013-07-18 20:18:14
Non c'est juste inutile.
#539 Re : Discussion libre » Section +18 » 2013-07-18 17:36:33
Donc c'est ici qu'on parle de bisounours ?
#540 Re : Discussion libre » dat bordel » 2013-07-18 17:36:04
Y'a aucune injustice à laisser les autres factions en invisible : c'était une demande individuelle pour celle de chupa.
#541 Re : Discussion libre » pk » 2013-07-18 17:35:11
Méry gauliouce
#542 Re : Discussion libre » dat bordel » 2013-07-18 05:58:25
Ca me fait étrangement penser aux réponses tyranniques de Marinou tout ça... Coïncidence ?
#543 Re : Discussion libre » pk » 2013-07-18 01:24:56
cékoitasignetradrrii ?
#544 Re : Discussion libre » dat bordel » 2013-07-18 01:24:21
pingouinpoilu a écrit :Backval a écrit :C'est pas un bordel, j'ai décidé de ne plus cacher les factions puisque ça déplait à beaucoup de joueurs.
Non, ce qui déplait à quelques joueurs c'est que tu souhaites cacher une faction en particulier.
La faction en particulier est inactive et ne sert qu'à flooder.
Enocre une fois si tu nous donnais une définition de ce que tu appelles inactive (en sachant que tu ne considères pas la manifestation d'un membre, qui plus est le chef, comme une activité), ce serait plus facile d'en discuter.
#545 Re : Discussion libre » dat bordel » 2013-07-17 23:20:30
C'est pas un bordel, j'ai décidé de ne plus cacher les factions puisque ça déplait à beaucoup de joueurs.
Non, ce qui déplait à quelques joueurs c'est que tu souhaites cacher une faction en particulier.
#546 Re : Photos, Vidéos » Rico :D » 2013-07-17 22:59:17
C'est pareil, c'est un truc d'ordures sentimental.
#547 Re : DAXS » Candidature pour devenir DAXS ! » 2013-07-17 16:32:35
Ton troll de sortir toutes les factions du caché c'est complètement stupide : le seul fait qu'il y ait une demande ici ça prouve que la faction n'est pas inactive tandis que ces autres factions ont rien demandé. C'est puéril en plus d'être stupide.
#548 Re : DAXS » Candidature pour devenir DAXS ! » 2013-07-17 03:03:05
pingouinpoilu a écrit :Et si tu donnes pas de définition de ce qu'est une faction inactive on peut pas trop savoir si elle peut ou pas être mise aux archives.
Je vous pensais pas aussi bête au point de devoir définir ce qu'est une faction inactive.
Étant donné que tu sembles considérer une faction dont le chef est actif comme une faction inactive, des précisions semblent s'imposer.
pingouinpoilu a écrit :Encore une fois t'interprètes mal l'anarchie : l'anarchie c'est quand il n'y a aucune autorité, là c'est toi qui la détient.
Je sais très bien ce qu'est l'anarchie merci. Y'a aucune autorité qui m'empeche de faire ce que je veux. LoL
Donc c'est pas l'anarchie, c'est la dictature.
#549 Re : DAXS » Candidature pour devenir DAXS ! » 2013-07-16 20:59:47
Et si tu donnes pas de définition de ce qu'est une faction inactive on peut pas trop savoir si elle peut ou pas être mise aux archives.
#550 Re : DAXS » Candidature pour devenir DAXS ! » 2013-07-16 20:59:02
Encore une fois t'interprètes mal l'anarchie : l'anarchie c'est quand il n'y a aucune autorité, là c'est toi qui la détient.